In a recent interview with Rolling Stone, Aerosmith’s Steven Tyler and Joe Perry discussed the changes in the band’s songwriting and the criticism the band faced early on (apparently they sounded like the Rolling Stones and Tyler looked like Mick Jagger), as they prepare to be awarded the Founder’s Award at this year’s ASCAP Expo.

Here’s an excerpt, with Tyler discussing the changes to the band’s songwriting over the years:

“We come from an era when ‘Sweet Emotion’ and ‘Back In The Saddle’ were considered dark and we weren’t accepted. We were just a B-side album band. We were never a singles band. Then the Eighties came along with ‘Dude (Looks Like A Lady).’ I listen to that now and I think, ‘What?’ It’s fun to hear, kind of like ‘Wooly Bully,’ but were we trying too hard to be a singles band? It doesn’t fucking matter. We’ve been strung out and sober. We’ve sold in and we’ve sold out. Some days we didn’t even sell at all. What matters is we’re still together as a band.”